Who is more Asian, and which will you prefer?

I've been interested in the nature of culture vs appearance, with respect to dating preferences.

Say you have two guys.

#1: Either the 4th or 5th generation descendant of immigrants (pick your fav country of origin) or an adoptee at a young age, he looks Asian but his style, facial expressions, mannerisms, and attitude are that of the western country he grew up in. He's never been back to Asia, doesn't care about the language, food, or his roots. Is into western entertainment. Did sports in high school and likes to party now in uni.

#2: A western guy (let's assume he's of your ethnic background) who is the son of two westerners working overseas (assume business, research, teaching, or mission work). He was born in Asia (pick your fav country there), grew up surrounded by Asian friends. Has absorbed a good deal of the mannerisms of the people there. His parents were really too busy to teach him his native language, and he grew up speaking most fluently the language of his peers. He's into Asian entertainment, doesn't do sports, goes sometimes to karaoke but doesn't like clubs and bars, and is currently studying hard for entrance into the local uni. Think: someone like Joe Alexander.

Which one is more appealing to you? I'd also be very interested in your reasoning and/or thought process.

Interested in the results of this, since I'm pretty much #1.

urho prof. anti-racist is giving a quiz this morning..make a poll. it might bring a little more accurate results.

"Who is more Asian" is a tricky question... cuz "Asian" can mean being either culturally Asian or ethnically Asian. I guess this is another indirect way to ask "Is your Asian attraction physical or cultural?"


P.S.
so, would the following be a crude way to summarize the two?
#1 = banana
#2 = boiled egg
jk.

I actually started to reply to this topic but it's too long and I haven't worked out all the details I'm about to head to bed. But, here's a thought to start off with, and I'll get back to this once I'm well rested and have more time on my hands.

What does it mean to be American? There are far too many misconceptions when it comes to defining what "American" is. To me, it simply means you were born here or obtained citizenship here. You may or may not be submersed in its culture.

To anyone of Asian lineage currently living in Europe, for example... I'm American, but like many American's, my lineage is tied to northern and western Europe. While my ancestors came to this country from Germany, Sweden, Switzerland (and so forth, I have an extensive heritage) - If you're living in any one of these countries, I would say you're a "National" of that country, etc. I cannot claim to be German, only to have German heritage. I'm an American with German heritage. I digress... I'm curious if people use this terminology in other countries? Does anyone ever say "I'm a German with Chinese ancestry" or anything like that? Serious inquiry. Just thought of it...

So, to sum it up... The white man born and raised in China would be considered a national of that country. A man of Chinese heritage born and raised in America is an American national with Chinese ancestry. To me, I don't factor in what it means to be "more Asian," or anything else for that matter. If you were born in Germany but have no ancestral ties to Germany, is it really fair to call yourself "more German" than the American-born German with limited exposure to German culture? I feel like I just started a whole new topic here, I'm sorry! Anyway, this is a partial thought from a tired mind. As to "what I'd prefer" with regard to a man who "looks" Asian as opposed to the person is "submersed in an Asian culture..." I'll get to that tomorrow I assure you I've a good response prepared.

Guy #1 is asian, guy #2 is white. "Asian" is a race, not a "mannerism". It's like you're asking who's more black, some black dude born and raised in America, or some black dude born and raised in Kenya? Or it would be like asking who's more white? some white dude born and raised in Italy or some white dude born and raised in France?

who is more american? a white guy who was born and raised in the usa or a native american who was born and raised in europe?

who is more european? a white guy who was born and raised in the usa or a native american who was born and raised in europe?

who is more human? someone born and raised on earth or someone born and raised on mars?

At the end of the day, it simply comes down to who you ask. That's opening a whole new can of worms, really. There is more than one definition of "European." It can refer to Europe and its inhabitants. If an indigenous American is born and raised in Europe, or obtains citizenship there, he/she is, by definition, European, because he/she is an inhabitant within Europe. Being European also refers to being a "descendent of Europe." However, if you ask many people living in Europe, I've found they quickly reject the notion of an American referring to their European ancestry.

I've a friend who was born and raised in Ireland, although he has trace Irish heritage. Another friend was also born and raised in Ireland, although she is 100% Chinese by heritage. The first friend was adamant on making the point that I'm not Irish because I was not born in Ireland. Despite the fact that I may have more Irish "heritage" he called me "generic Irish." I thought this to be rather cruel and ridiculous. Funny enough, I also have Native American ancestry. I've been rejected by many indigenous Americans as being Native American because I look "too European." Don't fit in with many Europeans, and don't fit in with many indigenous Americans, although I am both. So, at the end of the day, if you ask me? I'm a national of the United States of America with European and indigenous American ancestry.

What do I prefer? Well I'm becoming more of an "equal opportunist" but I'd typically prefer the Asian man, even if he relates little to his ancestral heritage. Why? Because first and foremost, for me, it's a physical attraction. Granted, it may or may not come with certain cultural values and traditions that I may or may not be able to appreciate. For example, my daughter's father, I had far too many disagreements with he and his family about things. How to raise a child, our thoughts about illness and health (I'm a nurse working at one of the most prestigious pediatric hospitals in the world, and yet they still seem to think that nurses are women that simply hand towels and tools to the doctor and feed and bathe people). We had far too many cultural and personal differences.

My boyfriend (of 2 years) upholds certain values from his parents' cultures, but at the end of the day he doesn't think of himself as Asian and me white/European. He just thinks "we're just us!" And we have far more in common. For being born in California and being of Chinese/Taiwanese descent, he would fit very well into midwestern/southern culture in the U.S. and that's saying something, considering the racial demographic and cultural differences between the west coast and the midwest/eastern U.S. Which is funny to think about... In any case, that's my two cents. I typically prefer men who have Asian ancestry, and I can appreciate (and also not care for) certain parts of their cultural beliefs/values/traditions (that is, if they uphold anything from their "mother culture" so to speak). And I think that's within reason. I do find it's easier to be with a man who's closer to me in terms of culture. I will say, my boyfriend frequently jokes that I'm "more Asian" than he is. I actually hear that a lot from Asian-American men I've dated or befriended >D

BrianaBoo8902 wrote: At the end of the day, it simply comes down to who you ask. That's opening a whole new can of worms, really. There is more than one definition of "European." It can refer to Europe and its inhabitants. If an indigenous American is born and raised in Europe, or obtains citizenship there, he/she is, by definition, European, because he/she is an inhabitant within Europe. Being European also refers to being a "descendent of Europe." However, if you ask many people living in Europe, I've found they quickly reject the notion of an American referring to their European ancestry.

I've a friend who was born and raised in Ireland, although he has trace Irish heritage. Another friend was also born and raised in Ireland, although she is 100% Chinese by heritage. The first friend was adamant on making the point that I'm not Irish because I was not born in Ireland. Despite the fact that I may have more Irish "heritage" he called me "generic Irish." I thought this to be rather cruel and ridiculous. Funny enough, I also have Native American ancestry. I've been rejected by many indigenous Americans as being Native American because I look "too European." Don't fit in with many Europeans, and don't fit in with many indigenous Americans, although I am both. So, at the end of the day, if you ask me? I'm a national of the United States of America with European and indigenous American ancestry.

What do I prefer? Well I'm becoming more of an "equal opportunist" but I'd typically prefer the Asian man, even if he relates little to his ancestral heritage. Why? Because first and foremost, for me, it's a physical attraction. Granted, it may or may not come with certain cultural values and traditions that I may or may not be able to appreciate. For example, my daughter's father, I had far too many disagreements with he and his family about things. How to raise a child, our thoughts about illness and health (I'm a nurse working at one of the most prestigious pediatric hospitals in the world, and yet they still seem to think that nurses are women that simply hand towels and tools to the doctor and feed and bathe people). We had far too many cultural and personal differences.

My boyfriend (of 2 years) upholds certain values from his parents' cultures, but at the end of the day he doesn't think of himself as Asian and me white/European. He just thinks "we're just us!" And we have far more in common. For being born in California and being of Chinese/Taiwanese descent, he would fit very well into midwestern/southern culture in the U.S. and that's saying something, considering the racial demographic and cultural differences between the west coast and the midwest/eastern U.S. Which is funny to think about... In any case, that's my two cents. I typically prefer men who have Asian ancestry, and I can appreciate (and also not care for) certain parts of their cultural beliefs/values/traditions (that is, if they uphold anything from their "mother culture" so to speak). And I think that's within reason. I do find it's easier to be with a man who's closer to me in terms of culture. I will say, my boyfriend frequently jokes that I'm "more Asian" than he is. I actually hear that a lot from Asian-American men I've dated or befriended >D

Amen!

BrianaBoo8902 wrote: At the end of the day, it simply comes down to who you ask. That's opening a whole new can of worms, really. There is more than one definition of "European." It can refer to Europe and its inhabitants. If an indigenous American is born and raised in Europe, or obtains citizenship there, he/she is, by definition, European, because he/she is an inhabitant within Europe. Being European also refers to being a "descendent of Europe." However, if you ask many people living in Europe, I've found they quickly reject the notion of an American referring to their European ancestry.

I've a friend who was born and raised in Ireland, although he has trace Irish heritage. Another friend was also born and raised in Ireland, although she is 100% Chinese by heritage. The first friend was adamant on making the point that I'm not Irish because I was not born in Ireland. Despite the fact that I may have more Irish "heritage" he called me "generic Irish." I thought this to be rather cruel and ridiculous. Funny enough, I also have Native American ancestry. I've been rejected by many indigenous Americans as being Native American because I look "too European." Don't fit in with many Europeans, and don't fit in with many indigenous Americans, although I am both. So, at the end of the day, if you ask me? I'm a national of the United States of America with European and indigenous American ancestry.

What do I prefer? Well I'm becoming more of an "equal opportunist" but I'd typically prefer the Asian man, even if he relates little to his ancestral heritage. Why? Because first and foremost, for me, it's a physical attraction. Granted, it may or may not come with certain cultural values and traditions that I may or may not be able to appreciate. For example, my daughter's father, I had far too many disagreements with he and his family about things. How to raise a child, our thoughts about illness and health (I'm a nurse working at one of the most prestigious pediatric hospitals in the world, and yet they still seem to think that nurses are women that simply hand towels and tools to the doctor and feed and bathe people). We had far too many cultural and personal differences.

My boyfriend (of 2 years) upholds certain values from his parents' cultures, but at the end of the day he doesn't think of himself as Asian and me white/European. He just thinks "we're just us!" And we have far more in common. For being born in California and being of Chinese/Taiwanese descent, he would fit very well into midwestern/southern culture in the U.S. and that's saying something, considering the racial demographic and cultural differences between the west coast and the midwest/eastern U.S. Which is funny to think about... In any case, that's my two cents. I typically prefer men who have Asian ancestry, and I can appreciate (and also not care for) certain parts of their cultural beliefs/values/traditions (that is, if they uphold anything from their "mother culture" so to speak). And I think that's within reason. I do find it's easier to be with a man who's closer to me in terms of culture. I will say, my boyfriend frequently jokes that I'm "more Asian" than he is. I actually hear that a lot from Asian-American men I've dated or befriended >D

the answer to every question depends on whom you ask, when you ask and how you ask. such things as common sense don't really exist for all.

btw, there is no such person as 100% chinese, imo. chinese are all mixed. the question of if someone is chinese depends on who you ask, when you ask and how you ask,too.