What's the definition for woman?

Him and she? They?


Serious question for those without a hive Mind. What is your thoughts on being pressured in only using "they" and being made to feel bad for recognising others as a woman or man, based on their biological gender?





Maybe it's just language. Sometimes I see a pretty boy who dresses up as a woman and acts like one. I can choose to call him a woman or girl, not because I recognise him as a woman. But because he looks like a pretty girl. And I choose to do so. Because it's a bit natural to call someone a girl when they look more like a girl. But when a guy is clearly a bearded dude and wants me to call him a woman or face a lawsuit. I think that's just bullying and hate that they don't see that. In their minds, they see themselves as heroes combating the real bigots. Maybe they're right and I am just a bigot. I am not going to bend and say a man is not a man but a woman, when I don't honestly believe that.

Still I don't agree trans people should be discriminated for who they are. But the pace of change where a guy wants to claim to be a woman and go to the UFC and fight women or go to a women's jail or toilets because people can't say he is a dude or legally recognise people by their biological gender. That just seems ridiculous. I never had issues with gay. Nor do I inherently hate guys who dress up as a woman or is a ladyboy biologically. I want to believe that everyone has the same moral and social worth and that's an ideal society worth fighting for. But a society where you cannot call a man as a man. And to treated as if you are morally lesser for thinking this way. Seems dumb. Gender is not a social construct. It's a biological reality and if you want to have today's people accept masculine women or feminine men. I can totally support that. I can accept that a man can be feminine and not act like a man. But he will always be a dude to me and not going to be gaslighted.

I had a good laugh after watching this comedy skit but also realised it's actually not this far from reality. It just seems confusing and complicated and backfiring on how they want people to define women.




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I don't like this automatic partisan divide where people feel disgust and have prejudice against trans and always side against. I don't agree with conservative Republicans on many issues but I do not think they are entirely wrong in this issue . I want to really understand. I had a conversation with a trans. I felt bad because I can tell they weren't happy with how the world was seeing them. And so I can understand why they feel change is needed.

But it seems like some people make up their ideal world and how things should be, in their heads. How they want the World to accept what they want to be, and how to treated. But it seems out of touch with reality. And really just opening a can of worms. It's harder for people to have sympathy with those who are ironically dictating them on how to recognise gender.

What did they expect? That they receive no discrimination and hostility for insisting they are a woman when they are clearly a dude? One of the more higher up bosses in my workplace is an eccentric and a trans. But he knows how to be proud of who he is and a bit sassy and doesn't need to have other people acknowledge he is a woman. He dresses up in woman clothes and sometimes I forget that he is a guy. He is a bit popular and I don't think he ever once demanded other people to call him a woman. He just be what he wants to be and mostly people don't really care about him being different. So I think there's relatively more tolerance for a guy dressing up and pretending to be a woman. But not so much towards guys who identify as a woman and also dictate others to acknowledge him as a woman, and to throw away their accepted definition of what a woman is.

Because I understand gender isn’t a social construct. Gender Roles are a social construct. if they want me to recognise more flexible gender roles then I believe I can support that. But they are now taking away people's choice on how they recognise Gender and they should not be gaslighting others like this behind a facade of fake progressives.

Nonetheless what is your take?

I'll be calling a boy for a boy and a girl for a girl until someone specifies to me what they want to be called, cause I'm not a fecking mindreader, and life is too short to be worrying about whom I am gonna offend. Because there are always people out there who is going to be offended by something you say or do. It's ridiculous.

Thank you for sharing with me. It's a good take though personally I still wouldn't call a man as a woman even if he asks me too, if I don't see reason enough. It's not that I want to hurt their feelings but I would be lying to them, if I agreed with them.

And frankly, I think people should quit virtue signalling and being so offended for telling them to think for themselves outside the hive. And not follow social destructive trends which is just embarrassing now where many are sleepwalking to whatever is in trend.

Fof those gender activists who act like they care about social justice, I wonder how they feel if they have a daughter. And that she would be realistically put off from seriously considering competitive sports ever because she doesn't have a chance against elite trans athletes with originally male organs. They don't seem to realise they are destroying the soul of their society by putting one group's needs and views well above all others. I bet there's no easy answer but this can't be it. And I hate how weak willed people get so offended when you tell them this should not be accepted. And they should wake up and not conform to messed up things.



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dogface9 wrote: Thank you for sharing with me. It's a good take though personally I still wouldn't call a man as a woman even if he asks me too, if I don't see reason enough. It's not that I want to hurt their feelings but I would be lying to them, if I agreed with them.

In situations like these. I tend to go in the middle. I call them by their name, instead of their gender. Since I am already majorly disliked or hated on this site, I might as well say I agree. Feminism, black lives matter, LBGTQ bla bla. It started off good, until people went overboard and made it crazy. I'm just gonna say it right now. The 'black lives matter' thing... I hate it. Because ALL lives matter. Everyone. It started off as a good thing, but then people went overboard. The lgbtq community. I used to didn't mind whatever was going on, until I started getting hated on because I was straight... And after the whole Harry Potter game incident where people were being threatened because they played a game for kids. My own gay friend hated on me for playing a goddamn game. And then I started thinking 'how fucked up is this world we're living in'.
So yeah, if people want to get offended by me giving them the wrong gender.... Suck it up....
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There are a lot of types of women, but we all have one thing in common, and it's not how we feel.

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Woman is a woman and man is a man. 🫡 it’s my opinion even though it isn’t popular.

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Your straightforwardness is refreshing and also I never disliked you. So thank you for sharing that despite how others may think. Though I bet you I will get far more angry hate for this particular last post here. haha. I "used" to support wokeness because naturally I hate racism. But I look at how it divides America and how it consumes much of their attention. To the point that it's majorly what they often talk about.

So now I am neither anti woke or pro woke. I just see the concept is overdone and a destructive force overall. I wish there were influencers that cared about promoting science, or teaching people to demand better wages and fight poverty and against corporate greed, or something productive. I guess there's not much private corporate paychecks for such things. Instead it's difficult to read newspaper in the west and not see yet another culture war. And I see how corporations are cashing in on it and how it steals attention from other issues like wanting better wages and improved cost of living..

Recently I see a lot of hype over how Budlight beer is losing massive billions because they had partnered with a famous trans rights activist. Except people can't look at a momentary dip in stock value and jump too quickly to such conclusions. The irony is that because of the backlash and the publicity made from angry right wing middle aged guys. They are creating viral free awareness that Budlight is "woke" and those right wing middle aged mofos are getting played. And their dumbasses don't even knows it

Because you remember what happened with Nike. When Nike went woke, the company won over the younger generation who are into that progressive stuff. I don't think Nike accidentally got popular for that stunt as they done their due homework and know what the market research points to who they need to associate with. Because corporations care about maximum profits for shareholders, and would go support and align with whatever is most popular nowadays. Not because they believe in it but because it's good for business.

So yeah, don’t think the beer company Budlight cares about the older conservative demographic. The big picture is the future massive demographic in North America, tend to not want trans to be discriminated against so those dumb loud angry right wingers are being played. Post a provocative trans rights activist ad and no surprise, it will get massive protest by those conservatives and ultimately, it might actually pay off for Budlight who drools fot a younger hive minded generation to be loyal and to buy their drinks instead, and actually believe Budlight is on their side lol, when they are there for the money. Budlight will instantly go anti woke if they believe more money is made there.

Despite the fact I don't like the racist homophobic right wing. And I got nil respect for a lot of things they do. That doesn't mean I support anything that's against them. The woke movement comes from a good place but it's just become another overly emotional angry hive minded trend. Corporations tap into it and ultimately distracts people from paying attention to all those rich billionaires who own the media and are paying off many politicians to pass laws that make them richer at the expense of the working class. It might seem like a crazy conspiracy but hard data doesn't lie. For so many decades, politicians do in fact overwhelmingly respond disportionately to western obligarchy and economic elites. They also control the so called free media and love to encourage things that divides people. And the more the right wing rages and attacks woke movement. The more distracted the population is, and the more the population are too divided, the more easier it is to get away with robbing the country's wealth. Unfortunately most of the population is too busy fighting each other in an endless partisan divide, and too dumb to notice it.



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