Lost in Translation

I just saw this again recently. Not really sure what to make of it.

1. Bill Murray wasn't the least bit interested in the Japanese woman "sent to his room".

2. The Japanese "Santori" commercial director was a rude portrayal of the Japanese man.

3. Bored, Scarlett Johansson goes to an arcade. She doesn't play any videogames, looks bored, and doesn't even try to communicate or even go so far as attempt to befriend any locals.

4. Strip club scene was lulz. "Asian women are all whores".

5. No attempt on Bill Murray's part to engage learning about Japanese culture, the language, etc.

6. Boring flick.

Thoughts?

tbh i didn't really like this film that much, but i do understand why alot of kids do and y sophia copps made it. i do like the intro. scarlett jo's pudgy ass is hypnotic.

this film is like the gateway drug 4 hipsters to japanamania. hip romantacized tokyo/jp.

anyway:

1. not all white dudes get that asian fever/yellow plague. his character was a successful actor in jp for a job. not all them wanna lip stockingu
2. i like the director. he was the tits! one of the realer aspects of the film.
3. didn't scarlet's character already have jap friends in the film? also she went to the temple and did flower arrange.
4. unfortunately that kinda stip club does not exist. jap strips are like shows. like cute burlesque w/ fan clubs in full effect. closest thing 2 one in the film would be a "happening bar." but most of those got raided and it's illegal (can find if u got connect).
5. again, bill murray's character wan't supposed to b interested in jap culture or the lang...who cares?
6. film waz ok, but it's more of a propoganda film imo.


didnt like:

murray taking a shower in the park hyatt. this scene makes thepark hyatt look bad. park hyatt is a great hotel. their shower heads are adjustable and werq fine 4 people of all heights.

fujiwara hiroshi and nobu saito cameos. hypebeasts fapping

Bloody shit movie.
No chemistry at all between Bill and Scarlett. Kind of the main ingredient when it's meant to be some sort of a love story.
Only good parts were the Japs and their whacky ways.

I absolutely loved this movie. It depicted love in its truest form; there was no sex to get in the way. The final scene when Bill Murray's character was whispering to Scar Jo's, and the look on her face, and the fact that the audience wasn't meant to hear their conversation because it was too intimate, was profoundly moving. It stayed with me for a long time afterwards.

I too did not like the condescending tone the movie took toward the Japanese, but overall I felt the movie was a wonderful love story.

manimal wrote: 1. Bill Murray wasn't the least bit interested in the Japanese woman "sent to his room".
2. The Japanese "Santori" commercial director was a rude portrayal of the Japanese man.
3. Bored, Scarlett Johansson goes to an arcade. She doesn't play any videogames, looks bored, and doesn't even try to communicate or even go so far as attempt to befriend any locals.
4. Strip club scene was lulz. "Asian women are all whores".
5. No attempt on Bill Murray's part to engage learning about Japanese culture, the language, etc.
6. Boring flick.

The movie is about loneliness and separateness we feel deep inside. The main characters being in Japan is sort of a metaphor. It didn't have to be Japan and could have been any other country where English is not widely spoken. It was just to effectively create and amplify the situation where we feel segregated/ignored/not understood/etc. among other human beings. And imagine when you finally meet someone who seems to understand how you feel and who "talks in the same language." The film portrays that sort of transient-but-deep connection between the protagonists quite well, in my view. So that eerie disconnection you felt between Japanese people/culture and the main characters is natural and necessary I would say. (Ever been to a country where you don't speak their language? It's quite normal to be shy in such environment, especially when you're not used to it.)

zxynn wrote:

manimal wrote: 1. Bill Murray wasn't the least bit interested in the Japanese woman "sent to his room".
2. The Japanese "Santori" commercial director was a rude portrayal of the Japanese man.
3. Bored, Scarlett Johansson goes to an arcade. She doesn't play any videogames, looks bored, and doesn't even try to communicate or even go so far as attempt to befriend any locals.
4. Strip club scene was lulz. "Asian women are all whores".
5. No attempt on Bill Murray's part to engage learning about Japanese culture, the language, etc.
6. Boring flick.

The movie is about loneliness and separateness we feel deep inside. The main characters being in Japan is sort of a metaphor. It didn't have to be Japan and could have been any other country where English is not widely spoken. It was just to effectively create and amplify the situation where we feel segregated/ignored/not understood/etc. among other human beings. And imagine when you finally meet someone who seems to understand how you feel and who "talks in the same language." The film portrays that sort of transient-but-deep connection between the protagonists quite well, in my view. So that eerie disconnection you felt between Japanese people/culture and the main characters is natural and necessary I would say. (Ever been to a country where you don't speak their language? It's quite normal to be shy in such environment, especially when you're not used to it.)

Exactly. I think the role of the Japanese culture in Lost in Translation is basically a metaphor. Since it's a movie not only about "loneliness" but also "not knowing what to do with yourself", it's easy for the audience to understand the feeling of the characters if there's a contrast and the fact that the movie takes places in Japan is a merely excuse to show how different the world seems around you when you feel lonely. You feel out of place and even if you speak the same language, you feel nobody can't really understand you, and in fact...you can see that in the relationship of Charlotte and her husband and Bob Harris and his wife...They speak the same language and come from the same culture but they are still "Lost in translation". There is a huge misscomunication in between, and that's why they somehow fell for each other, because they could understand how it feels to be lonely and lost.
I think it's a very beautiful and subtle film and I know a lot of people who find it slow and boring but I think it's quite hard to understand it if you never actually been through a similar situation. I personally love this film a lot and it's basically the reason why I'm going to film school next year.

I put this movie on when I have insomnia works like a charm . Worst movie ever

I liked the movie but i'm pretty sure it's because I love most things with Bill Murray! :>