Random Thoughts 2

Skybird wrote: China's government is good at hiding stuff, they did even hide covid19 when they knew about it in December, they even hide their lab until now and don't let scientists from abroad enter, they even ban internet sites like YouTube, Google, Facebook etc and make their own ones, I could count more but I'll stop right here, I don't believe anything China says it's similar with North Korea to me, I've heard China was happy about the news that Kim Jong Un is still alive lol.
To make it clear I don't have anything against Chinese people, I'm talking about their filthy government

EXACTLY. I'm called a racist for being critical of the Chinese government when I myself have ancestors that are from China. Go figure. Remember when China tried to place the blame on the USA claiming US SOLDIERS brought it to China? And, the media ran with that narrative. The AMERICAN MEDIA ran with Chinese propaganda. To do what? Spite Trump? It's pathetic really.

Imagine telling a victim of sexual assault you believe them, but you'll still support the guy that sexually assaulted her. 🤦‍♂️

aziaelion wrote:

Skybird wrote: China's government is good at hiding stuff, they did even hide covid19 when they knew about it in December, they even hide their lab until now and don't let scientists from abroad enter, they even ban internet sites like YouTube, Google, Facebook etc and make their own ones, I could count more but I'll stop right here, I don't believe anything China says it's similar with North Korea to me, I've heard China was happy about the news that Kim Jong Un is still alive lol.
To make it clear I don't have anything against Chinese people, I'm talking about their filthy government

EXACTLY. I'm called a racist for being critical of the Chinese government when I myself have ancestors that are from China. Go figure. Remember when China tried to place the blame on the USA claiming US SOLDIERS brought it to China? And, the media ran with that narrative. The AMERICAN MEDIA ran with Chinese propaganda. To do what? Spite Trump? It's pathetic really.

People nowadays are easily butthurt and like to blame others with words like "racist" or similar, if they don't agree with u, I've made the same experiences, I'm a little more careful with my words now.
Their government lies like a waterfall, without any kind of bad conscience...
The media is pretty manipulative which is pretty sad because many people believe everything what the media says
I believe that the lab in Wuhan is fault for everything, idc if others say the opposite..

Guys, guys,
Everyone is entitled to her/his own opinion.
I'm not against some serious discussion provided as we keep it decent & with reliable sources quoted.
The recent posts in this thread are very specifically about the virus & its alledged origin...
So, maybe could we carry on this discussion in one of the dedicated thread, like this one:
www.hey-ai.com/forum...642-coronavirus
and keep the Random Thoughts for anything... random ?

JunJun.fr wrote: Guys, guys,
Everyone is entitled to her/his own opinion.
I'm not against some serious discussion provided as we keep it decent & with reliable sources quoted.
The recent posts in this thread are very specifically about the virus & its alledged origin...
So, maybe could we carry on this discussion in one of the dedicated thread, like this one:
www.hey-ai.com/forum...642-coronavirus
and keep the Random Thoughts for anything... random ?

The thread you directed us to is strange.

Well, there are more threads about similar topic, though you also might call strange:
www.hey-ai.com/forum...y-against-china

aziaelion wrote:

dogface9 wrote: American and Canadian gov aren't pro china or biased to cover it up. Why would they?

I heard about that story and Factchecks orgs did their thorough research and stated it was misinformation and proven false. They cited Canadian health and federal police officials and it's unfeasible these Canadian government public agencies will lie because of private corp donations.



www.cbc.ca/news/cana...iracy-1.5442376


Your naivete is showing. Money controls everything in the media. Money is capable of bringing down governments with the right amount of people. There's a reason why a thing called Insider Threats is a national security vulnerability. Bad actors within the government and in the media work hand in hand. I rather do my own research than rely on "factcheck.org" "wikipedia" or "Snopes." Try using them as sources for an academic paper. Your professor would first laugh at you then give you an F. The Chinese researchers that exposed their government? All are dead or they're "unaccounted" for.

Wow you're actually still talking about this? I thought my last post made it pretty obvious. Yet I'm the one who's naive? That is rich given that you believe in misinformation.

Tell me man but are you also a climate change denier? Flat earther?

Climate change deniers will not be convinced by peer-reviewed science. Instead they are SO similar in your logic to say that all NASA scientists are corrupt yet at the same time, they choose to believe in people who aren't legit climate scientists. That makes sense. (sarcasm)

You rather take at face value loose rumors of some unknown rep conspiracy nutjobs but not the evidence presented by governments and scientists? That makes no sense at all.



FYI - None of the sources that I use are even from China. Instead, just Canadian and American fact check sites which unlike the sources that you use. They win journalism awards whereas your conspiracy websites are basically nobodies with no reputation at all. Any imbecile can make a conspiracy blog and have other morons believe them.

The original author of that conspiracy blog is a nobody yet you trust him? Why?

I EVEN used your own snapshot sources aka Canadian CBC.ca that literally tries to explain that its media reports had been deliberately distorted by a third party to create misleading false rumors.

"The conspiracy theory seems to be based on a distorted reading of reporting from CBC News published last summer." - www.cbc.ca/news/cana...iracy-1.5442376
.

Baseless stories claiming that the two scientists are Chinese spies and that they smuggled the coronavirus to China's only Level 4 lab in Wuhan last year have been spreading on all major social media platforms and on conspiracy theorist blogs. One article from a conspiracy blog was shared more than 6,000 times on Facebook on Monday.

The story even made its way on Chinese-owned social media app TikTok, where a video pushing these claims was watched more than 350,000 times.

"This is misinformation and there is no factual basis for claims being made on social media," Eric Morrissette, chief of media relations for Health Canada and the Public Health Agency of Canada said in response to queries by CBC News.

You can believe what you want to believe but I never understand why you would trust conspiracy blogs and not neutral independent fact check sites.

Any kind of topic would fit on the thread random thoughts tho

dogface9 wrote:

aziaelion wrote:

dogface9 wrote: American and Canadian gov aren't pro china or biased to cover it up. Why would they?

I heard about that story and Factchecks orgs did their thorough research and stated it was misinformation and proven false. They cited Canadian health and federal police officials and it's unfeasible these Canadian government public agencies will lie because of private corp donations.



www.cbc.ca/news/cana...iracy-1.5442376


Your naivete is showing. Money controls everything in the media. Money is capable of bringing down governments with the right amount of people. There's a reason why a thing called Insider Threats is a national security vulnerability. Bad actors within the government and in the media work hand in hand. I rather do my own research than rely on "factcheck.org" "wikipedia" or "Snopes." Try using them as sources for an academic paper. Your professor would first laugh at you then give you an F. The Chinese researchers that exposed their government? All are dead or they're "unaccounted" for.

Wow you're actually still talking about this? I thought my last post made it pretty obvious. Yet I'm the one who's naive? That is rich given that you believe in misinformation.

Tell me man but are you also a climate change denier? Flat earther?

Climate change deniers will not be convinced by peer-reviewed science. Instead they are SO similar in your logic to say that all NASA scientists are corrupt yet at the same time, they choose to believe in people who aren't legit climate scientists. That makes sense. (sarcasm)

You rather take at face value loose rumors of some unknown rep conspiracy nutjobs but not the evidence presented by governments and scientists? That makes no sense at all.



FYI - None of the sources that I use are even from China. Instead, just Canadian and American fact check sites which unlike the sources that you use. They win journalism awards whereas your conspiracy websites are basically nobodies with no reputation at all. Any imbecile can make a conspiracy blog and have other morons believe them.

The original author of that conspiracy blog is a nobody yet you trust him? Why?

I EVEN used your own snapshot sources aka Canadian CBC.ca that literally tries to explain that its media reports had been deliberately distorted by a third party to create misleading false rumors.

"The conspiracy theory seems to be based on a distorted reading of reporting from CBC News published last summer." - www.cbc.ca/news/cana...iracy-1.5442376
.

Baseless stories claiming that the two scientists are Chinese spies and that they smuggled the coronavirus to China's only Level 4 lab in Wuhan last year have been spreading on all major social media platforms and on conspiracy theorist blogs. One article from a conspiracy blog was shared more than 6,000 times on Facebook on Monday.

The story even made its way on Chinese-owned social media app TikTok, where a video pushing these claims was watched more than 350,000 times.

"This is misinformation and there is no factual basis for claims being made on social media," Eric Morrissette, chief of media relations for Health Canada and the Public Health Agency of Canada said in response to queries by CBC News.

You can believe what you want to believe but I never understand why you would trust conspiracy blogs and not neutral independent fact check sites.

Sometimes you don't need to check any kind of site, just use your brain

dogface9 wrote:

aziaelion wrote:

dogface9 wrote: American and Canadian gov aren't pro china or biased to cover it up. Why would they?

I heard about that story and Factchecks orgs did their thorough research and stated it was misinformation and proven false. They cited Canadian health and federal police officials and it's unfeasible these Canadian government public agencies will lie because of private corp donations.



www.cbc.ca/news/cana...iracy-1.5442376


Your naivete is showing. Money controls everything in the media. Money is capable of bringing down governments with the right amount of people. There's a reason why a thing called Insider Threats is a national security vulnerability. Bad actors within the government and in the media work hand in hand. I rather do my own research than rely on "factcheck.org" "wikipedia" or "Snopes." Try using them as sources for an academic paper. Your professor would first laugh at you then give you an F. The Chinese researchers that exposed their government? All are dead or they're "unaccounted" for.

Wow you're actually still talking about this? I thought my last post made it pretty obvious. Yet I'm the one who's naive? That is rich given that you believe in misinformation.

Tell me man but are you also a climate change denier? Flat earther?

Climate change deniers will not be convinced by peer-reviewed science. Instead they are SO similar in your logic to say that all NASA scientists are corrupt yet at the same time, they choose to believe in people who aren't legit climate scientists. That makes sense. (sarcasm)

You rather take at face value loose rumors of some unknown rep conspiracy nutjobs but not the evidence presented by governments and scientists? That makes no sense at all.



FYI - None of the sources that I use are even from China. Instead, just Canadian and American fact check sites which unlike the sources that you use. They win journalism awards whereas your conspiracy websites are basically nobodies with no reputation at all. Any imbecile can make a conspiracy blog and have other morons believe them.

The original author of that conspiracy blog is a nobody yet you trust him? Why?

I EVEN used your own snapshot sources aka Canadian CBC.ca that literally tries to explain that its media reports had been deliberately distorted by a third party to create misleading false rumors.

"The conspiracy theory seems to be based on a distorted reading of reporting from CBC News published last summer." - www.cbc.ca/news/cana...iracy-1.5442376
.

Baseless stories claiming that the two scientists are Chinese spies and that they smuggled the coronavirus to China's only Level 4 lab in Wuhan last year have been spreading on all major social media platforms and on conspiracy theorist blogs. One article from a conspiracy blog was shared more than 6,000 times on Facebook on Monday.

The story even made its way on Chinese-owned social media app TikTok, where a video pushing these claims was watched more than 350,000 times.

"This is misinformation and there is no factual basis for claims being made on social media," Eric Morrissette, chief of media relations for Health Canada and the Public Health Agency of Canada said in response to queries by CBC News.

You can believe what you want to believe but I never understand why you would trust conspiracy blogs and not neutral independent fact check sites.

You probably believe that Bill Nye is an actual scientist because they labeled him as one. You also probably believe Greta Thunberg is an expert on climate science since the international community of scientists take her seriously. You probably trust the W.H.O and you believe vaccines are the answer to all our illnesses. 🤭 Let me guess. Your go to news sources are ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC because people from those networks got awards. 😂 Dumb enough to believe the Chinese coronavirus came from nature. DM me if you want to debate.