Cultural appropriation

What do you think of Dakota Rose ? I am a little uneasy about the way how she adapt herself to the Japanese gaze



The objectification of Anglo-white women was already very strange in Anglo-American media. Take this for example:



Please do not appropriate East Asian pop culture for your own objectification.

I congratulate her on making it into the Japanese industry at such a young age. From personal experience the task is daunting. However, her style of work she does is not one i prefer.

For me personally I think if you are a foreigner attempting to make it in a foreign industry, it is important to still relate or hang onto your uniqueness as being a foreigner versus trying to force yourself to look like the local people; or conform to a specific pop cultured look.

Regardless she will always stand out in japan. My only hope is that her influence wont impact how other foreigner entertainers would be viewed.

My problem with her is that she tries to look like a doll. Generations of Anglo-American women wrote about feminism and now they start a competition with Japanese women who can make herself like a doll better. Victorian women were the darkest age for Anglo women - certainly, you get new styles, but the idea of giving yourself up for the male gaze is a huge step backwards.

That is even more crazy - it seems like a movement

I get what you mean entirely. But take her natural features into account; big eyes, small nose, big lips. Those features are what are perceived to be 'doll-like', perhaps she can't help but be labelled as 'doll-like' by the media itself?
Also, I notice quite a few asian girls try to westernise themselves in terms of lightening their hair and skin, and wearing light-coloured eye contacts, so it does work both ways. Females in general just like to change their look completely.

No. Whitening is not a westernization. East Asia is a very vast area. Many East Asian women in the nothern area have porcelain white taint and have big eyes. In the south there is another phenotype with a darker taint. Chinese painting exaggerates the whiteness of Chinese women and the style travel to Korea and Japan. But Planet Hollywood use also too much light to give Anglo white women their characteristic "glow".

Anglo white women have taste in the 1960's because they adopt all sorts of Asian philosophy for the counter-culture of the Hippies & Beatniks.

There are also matriarchy cultures in China and female shamanism in Korea. The martial arts genre contains plenty of kick-ass wu shu women. No need to appropriate the worst things from East Asia.

Well, I'm white and I have big eyes and porcelain skin naturally. It doesn't mean I'm trying to look asian.

The doll-like image of Anglo-white women troubles me, because it reminds me of some really laughable representation of Anglo-white women.

The first Zombie movie was with a white female zombie. The American film maker approbriates the vodoo believe to create a white male fantasy of a obedient Anglo-white woman.

It's just a concept.
I mean, where I come from, that's not exactly what people like the most. In tropical countries is quite hard wanting to be white and dollish when you have sun all year and most women are born with more... "voluptuous" figures. (even though in Brazil there's a little bit of every type of people...)

I find the doll-like image extremely beautiful, even though I'd never be able to adapt to that, and that's why I believe it's so popular, because it's something that takes lot's of work to reach.


* I'm just blabbering here, aren't I? *

My suggestion is that in the British settler societies exist an idea that Anglo-white women are ambivalent human beings and Anglo-white men think they lack rationality and self-autonomy. This is the reason why they get voting rights after the black men in the USA. It does not matter if they are actually the wifes and daugthers - they reminds the Anglo-white men of the possibility of identity lost and madness (irrationality).





In France and the Nordic countries there are better committments to gender equality. Especially France was the leading literary nation in Europe and French women proof their rationality and self-autonomy with their writings. French and Nordic women are not the problem.

The essence of women from the postcolonial countries are always tied to exotic sexual pleasure. In the Anglosphere there is the idea that postcolonial women offer better sex.

But there are several exception. Women from the Confucian countries are the originals for some doll images in orientalism - like the Geisha.

The wish of a man for a barbie girl friend is like the wish for having a female zombie at hand. There could be a emotional and conceptual tourism between Anglo-white women incapability to end gender inequality and the strange hyperfeminine social position in the Anglosphere.
The ideas and concepts that originally are developed for doll-like Anglo-women of the Victorian Age find a new object in subdue it to their mode of gaze.

This is how I see white male Asian female relationship. It is an aided recall for Anglo-white women - if you do not stay in your natural female role and wash, clean and looks gorgeous then we marry Asian dolls with barbie face and masculinize you !

I see where you're coming from, I understand your point but I can't agree to all.
I feel that it's not just about dominance from male to female, based on a doll like style. This concept is pretty acceptable, unless you change your real features to do it, I mean, plastic surgery to achieve the perfect doll body, or doll face, it's pretty creepy.
But still it's just pretty much a concept. The way it's interpreted depends only on the women that follow that style, and who they want to impress with it. If they state that their looks, are only that, looks, people will start to realize more that is indeed only a fashion style not a life style.

I can't talk in behalf of men, but I don't think all of them look at doll-like girls, the submissive way, sometimes it's just the image of innocence and purity that attracts.

But then again, I could be here making a fool of myself blabbering about a subject I actually don't think is a problem.