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8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago #435964 by lonewolfandcub

Rose Mary wrote: Irreversible
Happy together
Melancholia

And...
Histoire d'O
A streetcar named desire
In the realm of the senses


EDIT: substitute LAST TANGO IN PARIS for MELANCHOLIA

What do you love so much about broken things? Broken people? Broken promises...?

You are not the type to suffer the sacrificial ordeal of putting someone else's pieces back together. The story would be beautiful, wouldn't it, if we could just reverse, gathering up the broken fragments of only blissful memories, arriving again at the perfect moment of our first meeting... all the pregnant potential of our beginning at the end...

But you cannot bear to be still or look backwards with regret. Your heart is always bracing for the moment you will walk off stage, exit out the door and walk out into the cold Paris day or the bleak Buenos Aires dawn. You would rather spin solo under the spotlight of a thousand sanctimonious onlookers, letting their contempt fly off you like sweat from a weary ballerina, than to bear the wounds of disappointment. Your love is a waterfall. Your love is a lighthouse at the end of the world. Your love is the prison and the paradise of a one-room apartment.

You are looking for the perfect partner to your dance. But the complicated tango you yearn for emanates from within you: tenderness and cruelty, intimacy and anonymity, control and utter surrender. Where is there room inside that for another's footsteps, with this furious performance already occupying every empty corner of the dusty dancefloor?

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8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago #436611 by lonewolfandcub

AshleyCK wrote: 1. Treasure Planet
2. Tank Girl
3. Breakfast at Tiffany's

Honestly, couldn't resist putting up Interstellar. The science in the movie in certain parts is so spot on. Also, the father-daughter dynamic reminds me of my dad and I. Funny enough, the roles could be interchangeable but he'd most likely always be Matthew Mcconaughey's character. :heart:

Early Star Treks were also a huge inspiration. Memento was a great brain teaser too and Babel.

I know you said three but my interests cross many areas. :laugh:


Wow. Honestly, I'm stumped here. Looking for connections between an animated sci-fi Disney adaptation, a Grrrl power B-movie and the sweetest escort story ever told is tough. I'll even include your other films to try to find a common thread...

Interstellar, Star Treks and Memento, huh? Galactic frontiers, recovery, species survival and eschatology (the ultimate fate of all things)...

I want to start by noting the prominence of fable and allegory inherent in all your choices. Fables like Interstellar teach moral lessons through personification of gods, mythical creatures and forces of nature. Allegories like Memento similarly convey hidden moral truths or lessons. All your choices you can see, while differently coded, have at their center a strong moral faith, like a belief in God or the Good; therefore, I am sure you are a sweet and decent person. Moreover, I would guess you are an optimist who believes passionately in the inherent dignity of all life.

Okay, so now that I have a foothold, I want to examine your original three choices which I think reflect more specifically on your personal identity and, well, just between Tank Girl and Breakfast at Tiffany's there's such a broad spectrum of female experience that I want to pin something to this idea of defining womanhood or girlhood or femininity on your own terms. Perhaps you are a tomboy and so you identify with 15-year old Jim's adventurous plight. But is it the yearning for adventure which speaks to you, or rather the search for a father figure that makes this story resonate with you? I feel that might be it because then, again, when we look at Tank Girl, I want to say that you are not critical of the film's weak plot and dialogue and simply revel in being a cool, punk chick that kicks ass. And this is fine because the world around her is controlled by male idiots and sleazebags and so why shouldn't women rule the underground? My question is: Have men in general been disappointing to you? Or perhaps, did you have a difficult or broken relationship with your father?

Oh and of course, Audrey Hepburn...

I mean, who doesn't want to Go Lightly in Givenchy like Audrey Hepburn? Original style diva. Class and sass personified.

So I want to conclude that you are someone who loves being a woman, but who knows that people (mostly guys) will try to put women into neat, easy boxes. But you want to blow those boxes up with RPGs, wear designer dresses and carry machine guns if you want. And I salute you.

My suggestion is to wear your Girl Power battle armor proudly and do not condescend to guys who cannot appreciate what a kind and moral person you are inside just because you are dressed in leather or like a little cosmic adventure with your designer pearls...

All the best,
lonewolf
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8 years 11 months ago #436654 by lonewolfandcub

VanillaRayne wrote: This is a cool thread idea.

The matrix
American history x
Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind

Star wars and the hunger games as honorable mentions


Hello, VanillaRayne. Nice username.

So, your selected titles are also mythological narratives similar to the ones I cited in my previous reading. All three films can be read, for example, as resurrection myths, each spinning off into slightly different genres, as exemplified in the tone of their endings (Matrix: triumphant action thriller; American History X: tragic melodrama; Eternal Sunshine: optimistic romance). But rather than go in the direction of codifying their precise allegorical meaning, I want to shift the focus to an important feature that these movies share, which is the overarching quality of HEART.

The Matrix was stylish and groundbreaking in its 360 degree action-cam portrayal of a dystopian cyber-future, but what gave it HEART was the symmetry and consistency with which the Wachowski brothers were able to add compounding layers of mythical meaning above and beyond the obvious Christian symbolism, including Greek mythology, Alice in Wonderland, computer programming and Baudrillardian futurism. Both American History X and Eternal Sunshine use disjunctive nonlinear narratives to dramatically isolate key turning point moments while continually foreshadowing and drawing parallels to future/past events. Both films would have been far less impactful with straightforward chronological stories and would have entirely failed to convey the fractured sense of both the racial divide (American History X) and the slippery grasp of memory (Eternal Sunshine).

So, all that is to say: you appreciate a movie with Heart. It means that you are moved by a sense of deep, coherent underlying structure which supports the main focus. Furthermore, there is something audacious about all three movies, either in their willingness to tackle controversial subject matter, or in their sheer narrative or visual innovativeness. You further appreciate the fact that these movies, while deep, are also bold, fresh and daring.

Without meaning to be sexist, then, these are all qualities we typically attribute to masculine warrior energy or deep patriarchal structures of security and knowledge. I think for example that it means you have a healthy and respectful relationship with your father and that you would tend to flourish in dating older men that provided the same sense of deeply rooted character evident in your movie choices. So, try dating older guys or blue-collar, fireman types that tend to manifest that unmistakable sense of masculine integrity.

I don't know if that's really groundbreaking news for you, VR, but consider that the movies you chose are extremely popular, and yet I would certainly not give the same advice to male or younger viewers, for example. Yes, I can already hear the Freud-haters lining up to bash me. But I told you I was gonna call them as I see 'em...

Feel free to respond with your comments and abuse.

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8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago #436663 by AshleyCK
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lonewolfandcub wrote:

AshleyCK wrote: 1. Treasure Planet
2. Tank Girl
3. Breakfast at Tiffany's

Honestly, couldn't resist putting up Interstellar. The science in the movie in certain parts is so spot on. Also, the father-daughter dynamic reminds me of my dad and I. Funny enough, the roles could be interchangeable but he'd most likely always be Matthew Mcconaughey's character. :heart:

Early Star Treks were also a huge inspiration. Memento was a great brain teaser too and Babel.

I know you said three but my interests cross many areas. :laugh:


Wow. Honestly, I'm stumped here. Looking for connections between an animated sci-fi Disney adaptation, a Grrrl power B-movie and the sweetest escort story ever told is tough. I'll even include your other films to try to find a common thread...

Interstellar, Star Treks and Memento, huh? Galactic frontiers, recovery, species survival and eschatology (the ultimate fate of all things)...

I want to start by noting the prominence of fable and allegory inherent in all your choices. Fables like Interstellar teach moral lessons through personification of gods, mythical creatures and forces of nature. Allegories like Memento similarly convey hidden moral truths or lessons. All your choices you can see, while differently coded, have at their center a strong moral faith, like a belief in God or the Good; therefore, I am sure you are a sweet and decent person. Moreover, I would guess you are an optimist who believes passionately in the inherent dignity of all life.

Okay, so now that I have a foothold, I want to examine your original three choices which I think reflect more specifically on your personal identity and, well, just between Tank Girl and Breakfast at Tiffany's there's such a broad spectrum of female experience that I want to pin something to this idea of defining womanhood or girlhood or femininity on your own terms. Perhaps you are a tomboy and so you identify with 15-year old Jim's adventurous plight. But is it the yearning for adventure which speaks to you, or rather the search for a father figure that makes this story resonate with you? I feel that might be it because then, again, when we look at Tank Girl, I want to say that you are not critical of the film's weak plot and dialogue and simply revel in being a cool, punk chick that kicks ass. And this is fine because the world around her is controlled by male idiots and sleazebags and so why shouldn't women rule the underground? My question is: Have men in general been disappointing to you? Or perhaps, did you have a difficult or broken relationship with your father?

Oh and of course, Audrey Hepburn...

I mean, who doesn't want to Go Lightly in Givenchy like Audrey Hepburn? Original style diva. Class and sass personified.

So I want to conclude that you are someone who loves being a woman, but who knows that people (mostly guys) will try to put women into neat, easy boxes. But you want to blow those boxes up with RPGs, wear designer dresses and carry machine guns if you want. And I salute you.

My suggestion is to wear your Girl Power battle armor proudly and do not condescend to guys who cannot appreciate what a kind and moral person you are inside just because you are dressed in leather or like a little cosmic adventure with your designer pearls...

All the best,
lonewolf


Wow! Way to hit the nail on the head. Honestly, it's amazing how accurate you are. I don't condescend, I just move on. Sure, I've been disappointed by men and, for a good chunk of time, my father as well. I marvel at women as well. Men are great. I was also raised in a household where women were the majority. It was only my dad wavering in the picture. Brilliant work, here. You have a knack for reading people from their interests.


Also it's the yearning for adventure. I love space and finding out things that I did not know before.
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8 years 11 months ago #436666 by Blue
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Ok, here's my 3 favorite movies.

Hitman
Radio
The Blind Side

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8 years 11 months ago #436680 by VanillaRayne
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lonewolfandcub wrote: So, all that is to say: you appreciate a movie with Heart. It means that you are moved by a sense of deep, coherent underlying structure which supports the main focus. Furthermore, there is something audacious about all three movies, either in their willingness to tackle controversial subject matter, or in their sheer narrative or visual innovativeness. You further appreciate the fact that these movies, while deep, are also bold, fresh and daring.

Without meaning to be sexist, then, these are all qualities we typically attribute to masculine warrior energy or deep patriarchal structures of security and knowledge. I think for example that it means you have a healthy and respectful relationship with your father and that you would tend to flourish in dating older men that provided the same sense of deeply rooted character evident in your movie choices. So, try dating older guys or blue-collar, fireman types that tend to manifest that unmistakable sense of masculine integrity.

I don't know if that's really groundbreaking news for you, VR, but consider that the movies you chose are extremely popular, and yet I would certainly not give the same advice to male or younger viewers, for example. Yes, I can already hear the Freud-haters lining up to bash me. But I told you I was gonna call them as I see 'em...

Feel free to respond with your comments and abuse.

lonewolf

Haha, I'd say everything is almost the exact opposite for me. I tend to like men more on the feminine side of the spectrum, generally I've dated younger men (more by chance than by choice though), and my relationship with my father wasn't all that great. But you're definitely right about the type of movies I like. I love movies with deeper messages. Thanks for doing this, very interesting!

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8 years 11 months ago #436700 by Lol_wat
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200 pound beauty
I saw the devil
Money talks

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8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago #436703 by canmaryvan
- A walk to remember
- Leap Year
- Safe Haven
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8 years 11 months ago #436713 by romehassler
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lonewolfandcub wrote:

romehassler wrote:

  • Now you see me
  • Lucy
  • The Notebook


EDIT: substitute ANGELS & DEMONS for NOW YOU SEE ME

Hey, nice profile pic.

Can I tell you something you already know? Intelligence is your most powerful aphrodisiac. Hyper-accelerated intelligence which unleashes the full human potential, laying bare the hidden codes and messages of the heart. That's your thing. I'm sorry if that's not a super-detailed or nuanced reading, but sometimes the truth just shouts out at you.

It's notable also that your choices reveal a deep appreciation for classical dramatic 3-act structure, elevated subject matter and modern editing technique. What good is it to have superhumans fighting the illuminati or a modern day Cinderella story if the narrative is loose and not grounded in proper Jungian archetype to help the message hit us right in the cerebral solar plexus, right? In other words, you like really smart, deep shit.

You should go out with a writer. Ha ha ha...


Ohhh that's really accurate! And thanks for the compliment :laugh: I really enjoy a lot of different things and you're right when you say I like smart and deep shit LOL that's so me!
Thanks for this fortuneteller :heart:

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8 years 9 months ago #443453 by lonewolfandcub

Thesaurusrex wrote: 1. The Fall,

2. What's Eating Gilbert Grape,

3. Kiki's Delivery Service

I'm basing my next big life decision on this reading, so don't mess me up here.


Hi Thesaurusrex. I'm really sorry this reply is so late, though it seems you have made your big decision regarding your (ex-)boyfriend and your future and I sincerely hope that everything has worked out for the best.

These readings I do are fun but I also feel a bit of pressure in trying to be sensitive, comprehensive and insightful. In some cases, I have to watch or re-watch the movies in order to get an adequate feel for what the other person might be responding to. In your case, I had not seen The Fall but I downloaded it after watching the trailer I and thoroughly enjoyed it (as I did your other selections) so for that I thank you!

I also want to ask: are you a writer or a caregiver?

I would wager that you have an almost preternatural capacity for empathy as well as an acute sensitivity to small, seemingly insignificant moments and gestures. I'm not saying you let your emotions completely run away with you: only that you see and appreciate things in people and in daily life that most would overlook. Like someone with an emotional metal-detector in their head. And that these small moments tend to impact you deeply.

Gilbert Grape and Kiki are both wonderful examples of a kind of filmmaking that I would say is gradually becoming extinct. Although both films deal with (marginally) sensational characters (a 400 pound mother, a retarded boy, a young witch), they also deal with these characters in the most matter-of-fact way, generously allowing us to get to know them over time and through the multiple perspectives of others.

This kind of filmmaking requires a kind of humility from the director in not beating us over the head with frantic action or overt symbolism, and trusting in the viewer's patience and sensitivity to themes that need to develop gradually over time. Only when we are attuned to this slower, more careful style of viewing can we then reap the subtle rewards of Johnny Depp's deadpan performance, which actually UNDERSCORES rather than undercuts his inner turmoil, or the barely-perceptible change in Kiki's posture which, more than action or dialogue, tells the true story of her ebbing-and-flowing confidence.

The Fall adds a beautiful, colorful flourish in my mind, to the gallery of films you selected. They are all in their own ways films about VULNERABILITY. The Fall is on another plane aesthetically from the other films, but emphasizes poetically and with colorful bravado the similar notion that, despite our best intentions and our virtually boundless imagination, it is ultimately our limitations (as storytellers, as lovers, as friends), our vulnerabilities which define us and, furthermore, which afford us our greatest and most sublime experience in connecting with others.

Thanks for letting me (re-)experience the joy of these films.

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