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5 years 7 months ago #508699 by Ob2

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Its ok,some people just dont care to try and understand,sadly if they dont want to,than theres nothing that will change that..But you tried..


The key reasons on why i didn't at all bother initially to explain to Flower4ophelia on why her pic bothered me is because of that sheer utter frustration of a......not even sure what to call it...culture gap maybe?

The quora author below illustrates my similar frustration in communicating. It's almost as if i am not respected to an opinion if i am a mainlander and constantly feel misunderstood, suppressed and misrepresented by a hawkish media.

www.quora.com/What-c...a494&srid=3GNma

amp.scmp.com/comment...ent-brainwashed

State media is of course biased but so is corporate media. The saddest understated thing about capitalism is probably that all media is a kind of a business and that they all would like to protect their own benefits. Anti china news sell like hot cakes in the west so authors who are the most biased china hawks, become hired as china experts in corporate  news agencies.

www.salon.com/2019/1...lobal-protests/

www.quora.com/Is-the...39f2&srid=3GNma

Except the people who hate china are in HK and the china hawks in the world are cheering them on.

There's a guy named Jimmy Lai who is John Bolton's bff. He runs a media which is an extreme media that frequently scrapegoat immigrants and namecalls mainlanders as locusts. Even fox news has more class.

The HK youth actually has legitimate reasons to be upset by the gov.  But it's complex and they get sucked into accepting every word of a heavily one sided anti establishment media that is frankly xenophobic and hypocrotically pro economic freedom which was what amplified the inequality.. He is no defender of democracy. He only cares mostly about economic freedom and his nativist right wing paper endorses that frequently.

There are just the 3 types of hk protesters. The violent animals..the ones that watch other people get beat up and cheer on the violence...and the ones that are disgusted by the violent antics and are actually well behaved peaceful protesters.

In american media, they will unlikely show you the canadian youtuber vid below. That's a side of the protest guaranteed never to see the light of day in biased corporate media.

That's the part of the protest that i am most angry at.




The troublemakers in the hk protests are more specifically the more violent irrational portion of the protesters. Their hatefilled language of "locusts" and socialised extreme hate towards anything remotely associated with mainland china or chinese. They are die hard fans of Apple Daily and Lai is their trusted media hero. On the commnity message board, their hate language towards mainlanders is atrociious. And they too freely make violence on anyone that disagrees with them. The other protesters are fine but i disagree that universal suffrage is a magic bullet to their economic woes.

In america, since your winning salesman candidate campaigns are bankrolled by corporates, it's clealrly not acting as a charity. People seem to think that as long as political donations are transparent. It's not truly affecting democracy.

But 20 years of objective data really shows that the average american has no real impact on policies when compared to the rich and large corps. Data url below.

www.upworthy.com/20-...-what-you-think

But if they want corporate backed democracy that bad. Then i don't want them to not have it. It's their city but feel they should at least debate fairly and not be like brexiteers full of rash emotions and anger. Just not convinced it's that simple and easy solution. However they were raised to see western democracy as the only way and anything else is bad. I was taught "chinese meroticracy" which is a collectivist combo of meritocracy and democracy. So we clash.

theconversation.com/...ritocracy-51471

Maybe i am close minded. But still, a protest doesn't give you the right to riot and bash mainlanders.


And the people who can understand me without me having to write long stressful essays explaining what my life is like in china. And they can no fuss get me on hk context are just fellow compatriots and mainlanders who like me, have been to hk. I went last week to see my uncle and he was traumatised by cowardly rioters.

I'm emotionally a way too close to the hk protest ugly side atm. I just need some time to rebuild myself and my life after and just a little wound up. I'm wary of becoming that guy who downspirals into seeing the world as a desolate world. Kinda like those bitter men who hate female empowermemt  or non white people. (i don't like those men) Except I'm more left wing antifa Bernie sanders 4 president kind of guy. That kind of extremist.

I want to remember the good and not have my attention all wasted on hate and people i don't respect. .but i want justice for me and close kin and stressed i won't really get it. And i  have a hard time forgiving others.


I have my coping mechanisms. Try to have a sense of humor or usually just go to the gym or play basketball to help buffer it out of my system. Or i just journal all my thoughts on paper. But it doesn't seem to take the pain away at all.  Knowing what i know and also being affected, is like a double kick to literal groin. The whole event has made me get darker on society. If i go down this road further, i will shape my pov to see the world as just a dark desolate place. And why i need to tackle this with people who get me. And not deal with trolls who don't care about mainlamders caught in the crossfire or the added stress of trying to confide in people who don't understand the context like I do.


You two are good people Aimée and Krystal777...but you should take care of yourself. Having me whinge and complain about my life like a schmuck with anger issues  will only make you unhappy. I'm smart enough to predict a solid liklihood of that.

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5 years 7 months ago - 5 years 7 months ago #508744 by justvisiting
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Ob2 wrote: @Just Visiting. I live nearby to Hong Kong and you are right that is indeed polarising.

You hate the ccp. Take it out on the ccp. Leave normal mainlanders alone. Protesters don't have a right to hound a mandarin speaking JPMorgan Banker and tell him to go back to mainland and then cheer boorishly after one douche assault him simply for saying back  "we are all chinese people" - to remind that non gov chinese civillians shouldn't fight amongst themselves and he's not really a foriegner and HK is his home.



You may say i am the enemy of that ‘hk's democratic way of life and freedom, ’ if I simply don’t support them. Nein.  I don't support nativist hate and their riot on destroying HK economy as that does not help them and hence need to think beyond apple media.

Kevin Zeese understands me. He is an American lawyer and political activist who helped organize the 2011 Occupy encampment in Washington, DC. He wants HK to thrive like me. Is he a troll or just someone who doesn't want hk to be used?

popularresistance.or...-kong-protests/

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Secondly as for the proposed extradition bill that has been dropped. It outlined that suspected criminals could only be extradited if the crime falls under a list of 37 types of offenses and offenses carrying a maximum sentence of at least seven years.

These offenses include rape, murder, kidnapping, exploitation/abuse of children, genocide, those relating to women or girls, etc Hong Kong Courts, and not Beijing, would have the final say on any extradition. None of the crimes included in the extradition bill included political dissent, subversion, or organizing against the government.

Something that apple daily always leaves out.

liberationschool.org...kong-and-china/

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In the bay area, we have a a term called ‘高分低能’ (High mark low ability for literal translation, but this term is for hong kongers who are smart in academics but suck at basic skills like people skills, tying shoelaces, and basic practical street smarts etc.

Those rioters are only making mainlanders hate them. They have no practicality but just destroying their city's economy despite they can never actually be independant from china. They alienate mainlanders by burning flags and waving the colonial british  flag.  And wave the flag of america who is in a trade war with China and the trump administration is not really interested in seeing HK thrive. 

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I read apple daily too.  In Apple Daily for over a decade, Those protesters were narrowly promised their economic woes will be over by simply overthrowing the gov. They were never even given an actual plan that explains how to solve economic issues and instead the media overly focuses on the gov and not the REAL larger reasons behind the economic inequality.

~But harnessing people’s frustration and oversimpifying the causation to the gov excessively in an oportunistic manner. It’s too easy to blame the gov plus mainlanders but scary to attack the major corporations and rich landowners that they depend on for their careers. :S It's taking advantage of people with genuine greivances by partisan defenders of economic freedom.

The worst part is that Apple Daily boss is a stong defender of economic freedom and "trickle down economics" which is code for the rich pissng on the poor. He don't care about social welfare or reducing the city's dependance on rich foriegn western companies.


:lol: :flower: :win: :ahh:

Macau is also 1 country 2 systems but is fortunate to depend more on the mainland for services and its casino income and china mainland is kinder and more accepting towards Macau's social welfare alignment. Unlike non chinese foriegn corps, chinese state businesses won't leave Macau just because they raise social welfare and establish universal basic income aka Wealth Partaking Scheme.  They are not as dependant on foriegn tax haven business like Hk so they can pull that off.

thediplomat.com/2014...s-is-a-success/

Shenzhen, my city has also risen fast and its economic prowress sparks bitterness from hong kongers. "In Shenzhen, wages have increased 8 percent every year, and more than 1 million new, public, green housing units at low rates are nearing completion." hong kongers see faster growth in its next door neighbor and they percieve that they are being cheated somehow.

www.workers.org/2019/08/43303/

And the sheer irony was that the infamous Hk macau Zhuhai bridge was built as a phase to help more domestic businesses in Hk so they won't be as severly dependant on foriegn clients. Less dependance means they can reduce economic freedom,  increase social welfare and not collapse economically when all the foriegn rich predictably leave HK for a a more corp friendly  tax haven when the other shoe finally falls.


www.forbes.com/sites...y/#5bb0cb266fd4

www.scmp.com/propert...reater-bay-area

The only real winners here are Shenzhen, Singapore, Macau, Zhuhai
as China realises it really can not depend on hong kong anymore. So all that innovation cluster mainland GREATER BAY AREA investments prebiously allocated for hk is now set to be diverted to macau, shenzhen and zhuhai instead. The hong kong protesters are the losers and as they close the city down, preventing people going to work throw petrol bombs everywhere and block children going to school. and think too simpliistic. How does destroying hk help Hk? They just signed away their future and my city shenzhen benefits yet i am not that happy.






1. he tried to play the victim card...lol

2. he liked to twist thinngs around and confused things with ridiculously long text post and mult-links ....does ridiculously long text post and mult-links convince people?

3. the extradition bill can open up way for ccp to arbitrarily kidnap people from hong kong ...you think that why people are scared? hong k ong people are fighting for their safety and freedoom and this person tryinng t o make hong k ongers look bad for protestinng.....way to go....

4.when did i criticize the mainland civilians for just being that? if they support the ccp crackdown on hong kong's freedom and safety then well...


very very sneaky tactics.....






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5 years 7 months ago #508745 by Ysayle
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''you got a potato nose''

when I was 12-14 years old that made me very insecure with my nose :up:

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5 years 7 months ago #508751 by JunJun.fr
:ohmy: ... :huh:
Really ? what did it look like ? :hmm:


Ysayle wrote:
''you got a potato nose''

when I was 12-14 years old that made me very insecure with my nose :up:


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5 years 7 months ago #508754 by Foreverblue

Ysayle wrote: ''you got a potato nose''

when I was 12-14 years old that made me very insecure with my nose :up:


Wait wait.... Like the nose from either Mr. or Mrs. Potato Head??

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5 years 7 months ago #508760 by Ysayle
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they just told me my nose looks like a potatoe lol idk

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Ysayle wrote: ''you got a potato nose''

when I was 12-14 years old that made me very insecure with my nose :up:


Wait wait.... Like the nose from either Mr. or Mrs. Potato Head??

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5 years 7 months ago #508761 by Foreverblue

Ysayle wrote: they just told me my nose looks like a potatoe lol idk

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Ysayle wrote: ''you got a potato nose''

when I was 12-14 years old that made me very insecure with my nose :up:


Wait wait.... Like the nose from either Mr. or Mrs. Potato Head??


People are weird.. if your nose looks like a potato, what is my nose looks like...... :huh:

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5 years 7 months ago - 5 years 7 months ago #508762 by Krystal777
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Ysayle wrote: they just told me my nose looks like a potatoe lol idk

Foreverblue wrote:

Ysayle wrote: ''you got a potato nose''

when I was 12-14 years old that made me very insecure with my nose :up:


Wait wait.... Like the nose from either Mr. or Mrs. Potato Head??

dont worry about your nose..its smaller than mine.I think i have a big nose..Well ok..wide like my fathers nose..
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5 years 7 months ago #508763 by Ysayle
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well idk xD since then I feel insecure x.x
and u two got nice noses! xD

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5 years 7 months ago #508771 by JunJun.fr
Guys... Don't worry about your noses. They look just fine...
Unlike my ears & lips.
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