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5 years 6 months ago - 5 years 6 months ago #508772 by Ob2
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That extradition bill is gone. They had an raw built up hatred towards china that did not change at all when that bill was withdrawn.

Like I already told you before. It's not even about encroaching on freedoms.

"Mark Pinkstone, an Australian journalist with 50 years of experience in Hong Kong, said, “The Basic Law, the constitutional document that supports ‘one country, two systems,’ provides freedoms of expression, speech and religion. Not one of them has been eroded since the handover in 1997. The current demonstrations are living proof of that.”


www.asiatimes.com/20...w-of-hong-kong/

Instead the youth is more angry on  high rents, housing shortage, the hard life whilst they see the rest of china has gone up alot. They have not improved as much in compsrison and stayed relatively the same.

Can you get the anger now?
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In 1997, the average per-capita income in Hong Kong was 35 times that of China, and in the early years after the handover, the trickle of Chinese who were granted permits to visit returned home with envy-inducing tales of high-end shopping malls and an affluent, effortlessly cosmopolitan population.

A sense of what has changed is captured vividly in the 2008 novel Beijing Coma, by the exiled Chinese author Ma Jian. It recounts a doomed love affair between a young Hong Kong woman and a man from the mainland, both medical students in southern China. Coming back from trips to Hong Kong, she first brings him Marlboros and then music cassettes, only to realise he has no tape player, and finally a camera, which he later sells for the equivalent of a year’s rent. Her parents object to her being with him, ostensibly because of the great gap in wealth. The man describes seeing her off at the train station on the border between Hong Kong and the mainland. “The Hong Kong tourists entering the hall were well dressed, with neat hair and tidy suitcases,” he writes. “They didn’t seem to belong to the same planet as the dishevelled hordes of mainland tourists who were trudging wearily around the hall in their bare feet, with plastic bags over their shoulders.”

Today, the contrast between the mainland and Hong Kong is no longer so stark. Hong Kong has become a stop on the tourist circuit for millions of mainland Chinese, whose currency is now worth more than the once-coveted Hong Kong dollar. Their swelling numbers have become a source of resentment by natives of Hong Kong. Rich mainlanders, including many in the Chinese political elite, snap up luxury housing and are blamed for helping making real estate unaffordable for locals.

“They have very complicated attitudes to Hong Kong people – a complex,” said a man in his late 20s who works in corporate relations for a small manufacturer, explaining his support for tighter restrictions on tourism from the mainland. “They say that Hong Kong people are really just Chinese people, and nothing special. Hong Kong people in the 70s and 80s invested a lot of money in places like Shenzhen, and behaved like tycoons. They say you bought prostitutes there. Now we are rich, and it is the Hong Kong people’s turn to be our slaves. When Chinese people come to Hong Kong now, they like to act like they are operating in their colony. They don’t care what you think and are very free, because they have the Chinese government behind them, and the Chinese government controls everything.”

More than any economic statistics, it is this kind of psychological role-reversal that has unsettled people most.


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Economic hardship and an exploitive media is what drives the pent up rage in the protests. Alot more than extradition bill.

Above comment excerpt in bold, was from an anti china paper. But I quoted it as it told some real hard truth. Normally they omit that fact about localist status anxiety.

But tho the author acknowleges mainlanders are hated for "stealing" jobs and opportunities and getting richer.  He however spins the causation of the economic woes to gov systematic corruption and says absolutely ZERO about pro captalist reforms that benefit  trans corps or private rich people over the population. Sara flounders saw that as deceptive and she wrote an article criticising that.

www.workers.org/2019/08/43303/

Article 5 of the Basic Law states that China's "socialist system and policies" shall not be practised in Hong Kong and "the previous capitalist system and way of life shall remain unchanged for 50 years".

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www.theguardian.com/...i-jinping-trump
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5 years 6 months ago #508780 by Ob2
I already explained it to you before in your thread.

www.hey-ai.com/forum...d-news?start=10

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The  problem with hong kong is not the gov. Or china gov. The problem is that policies favor the rich and if policies should change directions. The rich foriegn investiors and private companies can always freely enmasse leave with their money to a better domicile and make HK a poorhouse. That’s always been the core dillemma that HK is excess ruled by money but oversimplified and exploited into partisan agended political opportunity. And instead of blaming it on the rich people and corporations, the lai media fires up nativism by  blaming it all sqaurely on the mainlanders for economic inequality

consortiumnews.com/2...ce-in-hong-kong

The problem with hong kongers is that they don't even question their media. They just take every word and claims at face value. Apple daily or Lai's media has been unfairly blaming financial hardship on the mainlanders for a decade and never on the excess economic freedom reforms that benefit the corps over the people. That is unfair. The media boss had too much skin in the protest and was never one to write fair balanced articles.


Mint press is coordinated by an educated woman who is well known to western hawks who hates her and wishes to put dirt on her except she knows her stuff and unwilling to follow the program

www.mintpressnews.co...e-china/261712/

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In the words of Gandhi, who saw democracy as literally the rule of the people, the demos, ~ claimed that it was merely “nominal” in the west. It could have no reality so long as “the wide gulf between the rich and the hungry millions persists” and voters “take their cue from their newspapers which are often dishonest”.

www.theguardian.com/...rendra-modi-don
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5 years 6 months ago #508849 by Foreverblue
@ob2, Dude chill it, what you posted has nothing to do with this thread. Just walk away, you can start a new thread on that.
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5 years 6 months ago - 5 years 6 months ago #508851 by Foreverblue
My friends told me what happen to your hair.... the hairline...... :cry:
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