So what is it that attracts you to the opposite sex?

UrStunning wrote: Why you come up with age? Yeah, you probably made some more experiences, but that doesn't mean you're right and I'm wrong. Mostly from my personal view it just means that you're probably more hurt and frustrated and scared to give your heart away, you see things in a little more suspicious way. (That's what I'm guessing.)

And I don't think just because a girl falls for someone that catches her eye, she's not worth being trusted? And it doesn't tell you much about her values. We know that appearance is always important to get in touch. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just the way the world works, remember?

Well, whatever, I can't agree with you...I know a lot of girls/women that have great values. More in my age, cause we're still not that hurt and bitter and we still believe in true love. I hope you don't call that naive, cause then I would just call you bitter again =p
You would tell me you made more experiences, I would tell you you just lost faith...
Isn't that what you would say? xD

No, I fully admit it. I have been hurt and frustrated in the past and that has undoubtedly affected how I perceive the world. After all, we are but a sum of all of our experiences.

It's not falling for someone that catches her eye, it's the type of people she is falling for. She doesn't even know them but throws herself at them for nothing more than a symmetric face and a pretty smile.

Well, I'm sure your female friend have great values and a lot of suitors pursuing them. OTOH, I look around at my male friends - all great guys - and all but one is single. These are solid stable people looking for serious long-term relationships, whom I'd be happy to let my sister date/marry. How can I explain that they've been single for so long/life-long?

Yes, I have lost faith, but it's not for a lack of cause.

Yup, Marker is just bitter because he got his heart broken.

Hurr hurr.

MagicMarker wrote: No, I fully admit it. I have been hurt and frustrated in the past and that has undoubtedly affected how I perceive the world. After all, we are but a sum of all of our experiences.

It's not falling for someone that catches her eye, it's the type of people she is falling for. She doesn't even know them but throws herself at them for nothing more than a symmetric face and a pretty smile.

Well, I'm sure your female friend have great values and a lot of suitors pursuing them. OTOH, I look around at my male friends - all great guys - and all but one is single. These are solid stable people looking for serious long-term relationships, whom I'd be happy to let my sister date/marry. How can I explain that they've been single for so long/life-long?

Yes, I have lost faith, but it's not for a lack of cause.

No, not everyone of those girls has a lot of "suitors", some haven't had luck with guys yet and so haven't had a boyfriend ever, just as me. And I also know a lot of other Absolute Beginners that are very kind-hearted, mostly quite goodlooking, and never had a relationship. Reasons for that can be found everywhere, it doesn't solely has to do with the other gender. Mostly it's something personal. But I'm getting pretty off-topic now...

Well, maybe you should look for a younger, but ripe woman. And then I hope she will be able to make you want you to completely give her your heart.

Everyone is complaining about how hard it is to find someone to trust and love...that means there are so many souls out there that want exactly the same, but are all too scared and proud to give their heart away...
Wow, I'm being pseudo-poetically now...I should go to bed, good night =p

I wrote a really long reply and it disappeared (twice) after pressing submit. How depressing.

curmudgeon wrote: I wrote a really long reply and it disappeared (twice) after pressing submit. How depressing.

Awww =/
Next time you should copy your longer texts, I always do so on hey-ai because of all the issues this website has xD

I think it has to do with gradual switch from numerous short-term relationships to longer-term ones later on. The ball is in the woman's court (the power to choose) and it's a mixture of not knowing what they want and wanting something and getting exactly that. Things even out later on, but it's less appealing to go after someone that is still in a period of transition. The neglected ones probably want someone that's of like-mind.

The curmudgeonly female equivalent might be the girls that give her heart away, but to the wrong types of guys. www.thatonerule.com/rules/27.png

The long-term guys don't have the emotional/sex appeal as some of the more exciting options. I think it's natural for a lot of girls to follow their emotions. Girls are emotional creatures, and they do want all of the idealized values in their mate, but emotions seems to be (one of the) biggest factor(s).

This is just an opinion, but I think it's less common to find a girl that is mature and knows who she is or what she wants form a young age. Just like guys. I'm not sure what the debate is about (i.e. "is it possible" or "is it unlikely"), but it is possible and it's debatable whether it's likely or not. Most of the people that we meet are not BAD people, but might not be compatible with where we might be at as individuals.

A reply to your last paragraph: it's not a rare thing to desire trust or love, but some people are better equipped or more willing to give it than others. If i want a relationship, but I still have some issues that I have to work out, or if the desire does not match my willingness to put forth effort or compromise, it probably won't happen. There are a lot of people that want the same thing, but there are more factors in play than just that alone.

UrStunning wrote:

curmudgeon wrote: I wrote a really long reply and it disappeared (twice) after pressing submit. How depressing.

Awww =/
Next time you should copy your longer texts, I always do so on hey-ai because of all the issues this website has xD

Indeed. The site is telling me to shut my 'yapper.

UrStunning wrote: No, not everyone of those girls has a lot of "suitors", some haven't had luck with guys yet and so haven't had a boyfriend ever, just as me. And I also know a lot of other Absolute Beginners that are very kind-hearted, mostly quite goodlooking, and never had a relationship. Reasons for that can be found everywhere, it doesn't solely has to do with the other gender. Mostly it's something personal. But I'm getting pretty off-topic now...

Well, maybe you should look for a younger, but ripe woman. And then I hope she will be able to make you want you to completely give her your heart.

Everyone is complaining about how hard it is to find someone to trust and love...that means there are so many souls out there that want exactly the same, but are all too scared and proud to give their heart away...
Wow, I'm being pseudo-poetically now...I should go to bed, good night =p

That's quite unfortunate. I wonder what the best way would be to introduce such people to each other.

The problem isn't my not wanting to give away my heart, but in the women I target saying no regardless of what I offer.

i prefer cute guys so yeah i like baby faces
^^ my friends always make fun of me because of that

I look a lot younger myself and often get mistaken for a teenage girl
So maybe thats the reason why I love guys that look young and a little boyish.
I think if I would go out with an olderlooking guy, it would feel a little strange to me. Just like father and daughter and stuff

But what I totally dislike is the "supercute K-Pop boystyle" :sick:
they look like 12year old girls to me