Does the friend zone exist?

Rads1 wrote: There are no friendzones for gorillas.

or birth control. but there is some fighting to near-death with other males.

Friendship exists.

Either you're friends with someone and okay with that, or you're just sticking around like a vulture until you can be more-than-friends.

Yes am firmly in the friendzone with two female exes. Nothing's gonna happen but I'm good with that .

I guess it exists???

What's wrong with being just friends with the opposite sex? If something more comes from the friendship then it should feel natural.

I think a lot of people have this bias thinking that being in the "friend zone" is a bad place to be. Interesting things can happen...

Rarara wrote: There is no concept or expression like that in German. I personally find it stupid.

When people get to know each other, they might like each other. This could happen between male and female or same sex straight people or gay people... They could become friends. If they are attracted to each other they might be more than friends. Or let's call it something other than platonic friends. MIGHT! Doesn't always happen for noumerous reasons.

If the attraction isn't mutual, I don't see why friendship wouldn't be an option. Because if you like someone as a person, you don't stop liking them, just because they don't want to have sex with you. Oh wait, some guys are like that. That's wounded pride.


I think the basis of every good relationship is liking someone enough so you could be friends.

Thanks for your thoughts!

support wrote: Cuddle Bitches = "friend zone"
cuddle bitch(n) - "a guy who never gets to sleep with a girl but gets to have intimate moments with her like cuddling, spooning, or otherwise being affectionate. Usually this will occur in private. She probably considers him a really sweet guy, which is the kiss of death.

First off, cuddle bitches are bad, bad things to be. Maybe the worst thing to be. I mean, being an Intellectual Whore is bad, but being an Intellectual Whore who has to endure blue-balls is bordering on criminal.

As to how it fits into the framework of the ladder.

Basically this is just a guy who has a very high position on the friends ladder. So far up the friends ladder that he gets the dubious honor of getting to provide all the intimacy that a girl is missing when she's off fucking guys who basically don't care about her like outlaw bikers and band members. So he gets to be the proxy father/confessor/friend/teddy bear for her, depending on what she is missing at the time. Perhaps the only consolation of this is a ladder jump to the real ladder seems statistically a little more likely to succeed. Of course, when one is that high up the fall is dreadful indeed...

How do we know this? Well, if a woman had a nice loving boyfriend then he would be doing all the cuddling and whatnot and likely wouldn't stand for a woman maintaining a stable of cuddle bitches. Unless he's completelty pussified, in which case she's likely fucking some other people anyway.

For guys unacquainted with Ladder Theory, it is even worse. The cuddle bitch often thinks he is on the good ladder as opposed to the real ladder. So he gets all excited about his position instead of realizing he is being completely used. So this poor tool is really setting himself up for a fall at that point.

Note: This does not apply if cuddling under the influence of mushrooms, for the express purposes of avoiding hypothermia, or if the woman is a whore that you've recently paid for sex. Cuddling is perfectly acceptable and probably non-sexual in these circumstances."

Very interesting! Do you have a link to the ladder theory stuff?

Rads1 wrote: There are no friendzones for gorillas.

They could put other animals in the friend zone though. For example, a gorilla could be real good friends a golden retriever.

I bet in ten years, some academic institution is going to study the friend zone in monkeys

1. I friend-zoned him.
2. I started liking him.
3. He friend-zoned me.

Maybe I deserved it.

Aussie wrote: Yes am firmly in the friendzone with two female exes. Nothing's gonna happen but I'm good with that .

Yagairudi wrote: I guess it exists???

What's wrong with being just friends with the opposite sex? If something more comes from the friendship then it should feel natural.

I think a lot of people have this bias thinking that being in the "friend zone" is a bad place to be. Interesting things can happen...

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