Who feels non-asian girls with thick eye shadow is intimidating?

MagicMarker wrote: Not necessarily. The shy/insecure guys can always go around looking for a similarly shy/insecure girl. That's actually the way I see most of the world hooking up. The attractive go-go upwardly mobile socialite is going to attract and be attracted to the hot high-status confident guy.

I do concede that just as not all girls want that glamorous look, not all guys here are shy/insecure/uncompetitive as well. I'm sure you'll find someone who appreciates your attempts to look good.

It's not really a contradiction. The media does beat up on AMs, which causes a lot of them to lose confidence. It doesn't mean that there is no one attracted to them at all, or else as you said there would be no one here.

And not every woman wants to look good all the time. Some get tired of drawing too much attention, especially when she's just trying to get work done. Imagine if it's practical going to the gym with makeup and heels.

But nowadays you have gym fashion magazines, how to look great with little make up, dress simple but in fashion, find your look having fashion advice... ALL women want to look good... if not wearing make up, dressing nicely and in fashion or havin their hair flawless...

Men did this with women and now are trying to convince them that it's ridiculous... when you see a young girl with an okd guy people assume is for money, when an old woman is with a young guy you assume she'd a cougar, if a girk dress in simple clothes they look too normal, when she dress up she's trying to get attention... stop right there!

You're trying to figure out something that you can't even understand propperly. Western girls like make up, like to go to the gym looking amazing (even in my Muay Thai classes there are girls looking their best). To dress up makes the girls feel good and confident about themselves...

Not-really intimidating personally....eye lashes with big/thick eyes are hot..lol....

swirly wrote: I wear only thick upper eyeliner line and mascara. I'm quite shy so that's not really true that only confident girls do it :/ I just think that i have to contour my eye because if i don't do that i look like my eyes are swollen or they just vanish in my face cause i have massive cheeks -__-

Belive me, some girls just don't look good in "natural" make up.

You said everything in this sentence girl!

Well, all I can say is if you guys really feel intimidated by a bit of eye-shadow/make up lol, then you need to man up/tough up a bit more

It doesn't meant that (just because a girl is wearing some nicely done make-up) she cannot be considered good "marriage material" and just assume she is out there to attract players..

Monica is true. Plus if you date the girl u'll see her without make up anyways? Not many people have the permanent make up on after all

Monica you're the Queen!

Jan wrote: But nowadays you have gym fashion magazines, how to look great with little make up, dress simple but in fashion, find your look having fashion advice... ALL women want to look good... if not wearing make up, dressing nicely and in fashion or havin their hair flawless...

Men did this with women and now are trying to convince them that it's ridiculous... when you see a young girl with an okd guy people assume is for money, when an old woman is with a young guy you assume she'd a cougar, if a girk dress in simple clothes they look too normal, when she dress up she's trying to get attention... stop right there!

You're trying to figure out something that you can't even understand propperly. Western girls like make up, like to go to the gym looking amazing (even in my Muay Thai classes there are girls looking their best). To dress up makes the girls feel good and confident about themselves...

It's fine to look good, and I really don't care if y'all do it to make yourselves feel better. But as a man, there is a point at which I think it's excessive and overboard. That will probably change my initial assumptions of what kind of person you are. And given there are more girls then I can approach in a night, I'll probably prioritize and go for someone else. And that kind of mentality is not uncommon among my friends as well.

The men telling you to look dolled up are *different people* from the ones actually employing this type of logical sorting (I added some links in my previous post on the trade offs of approaching). If a girl dresses in simple and normal clothes, that's a + in my book. It may be different for the types of guys you're trying to attract *shrug*. If so, go ahead and do what you've been doing. Don't come complaining if you're not being approached enough by the guys you want because I've tried to explain the mentality to you.

Stop to think about how absurd this is. You're arguing with a guy about how he or his group of friends assess women (I think I know myself better than you know me). I'm telling you honestly that there's a point at which we'll not even consider girls who "look too slutty" (that point is different for every culture, admittedly). And you're stubbornly contesting my point due to what you've been told by magazines or what "men" in general told you of how they behave.

Monica wrote: Well, all I can say is if you guys really feel intimidated by a bit of eye-shadow/make up lol, then you need to man up/tough up a bit more

It doesn't meant that (just because a girl is wearing some nicely done make-up) she cannot be considered good "marriage material" and just assume she is out there to attract players..

A difference in mindset *shrug*. In Asia, the "good girls" don't dress all slutty (too much makeup included in this) and go out and party all the time. And honestly I haven't had good connections with the western party girls (different interests).

Possibly NSFW pics:

I wouldn't approach anyone from here: thechive.com/2011/03...book-23-photos/
But one of fotfcareers.silkroad...ee_guy_girl.jpg or csupueblotoday.com/w...9/Erica-Fay.jpg would be okay.

Yeah right! So go to church if you want a girl like these...

swirly wrote: I wear only thick upper eyeliner line and mascara. I'm quite shy so that's not really true that only confident girls do it :/ I just think that i have to contour my eye because if i don't do that i look like my eyes are swollen or they just vanish in my face cause i have massive cheeks -__-

Belive me, some girls just don't look good in "natural" make up.

Imagine girls do make up to feel confident. Guys don't have make up to feel the same LOL!!

Jan wrote:

MagicMarker wrote: Not necessarily. The shy/insecure guys can always go around looking for a similarly shy/insecure girl. That's actually the way I see most of the world hooking up. The attractive go-go upwardly mobile socialite is going to attract and be attracted to the hot high-status confident guy.

I do concede that just as not all girls want that glamorous look, not all guys here are shy/insecure/uncompetitive as well. I'm sure you'll find someone who appreciates your attempts to look good.

It's not really a contradiction. The media does beat up on AMs, which causes a lot of them to lose confidence. It doesn't mean that there is no one attracted to them at all, or else as you said there would be no one here.

And not every woman wants to look good all the time. Some get tired of drawing too much attention, especially when she's just trying to get work done. Imagine if it's practical going to the gym with makeup and heels.

But nowadays you have gym fashion magazines, how to look great with little make up, dress simple but in fashion, find your look having fashion advice... ALL women want to look good... if not wearing make up, dressing nicely and in fashion or havin their hair flawless...

Men did this with women and now are trying to convince them that it's ridiculous... when you see a young girl with an okd guy people assume is for money, when an old woman is with a young guy you assume she'd a cougar, if a girk dress in simple clothes they look too normal, when she dress up she's trying to get attention... stop right there!

You're trying to figure out something that you can't even understand propperly. Western girls like make up, like to go to the gym looking amazing (even in my Muay Thai classes there are girls looking their best). To dress up makes the girls feel good and confident about themselves...

Western vs eastern perspective. Magazine surely does all the dictating what is nice and what's not because they want to earn $$$ from consumers!

Monica wrote: Well, all I can say is if you guys really feel intimidated by a bit of eye-shadow/make up lol, then you need to man up/tough up a bit more

It doesn't meant that (just because a girl is wearing some nicely done make-up) she cannot be considered good "marriage material" and just assume she is out there to attract players..

I can only say looks are as deep as skin deep. Yes it does not measure the marriagibity. However in the eyes guys (maybe only asian guys or only me) it gives that impression.

By the way... wearing make up doesn't mean thar girl are sluts like thos you've showed